tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post1657824090415363131..comments2024-01-01T18:41:14.457-05:00Comments on NFL from the sidelines: Post-Jets thoughtsMoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13612323587459830074noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-61229151309732219022013-10-15T10:18:38.103-04:002013-10-15T10:18:38.103-04:00I think Moye could be a help in the redzone. Not ...I think Moye could be a help in the redzone. Not saying he should jump Sanders on the depth chart but with all our tiny receivers we have struggled in the RZ for years. Having Miller and Moye there could really help turn some FGs into touchdowns.<br /><br />Of course it would be nice if we could use a high pick on a WR with some size. Besides Limas. That guy had personal issues the FO totally overlooked, no wonder he dropped so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-65084318957540277182013-10-14T21:07:17.282-04:002013-10-14T21:07:17.282-04:00Dan,
Sanders is on pace right now for 74 catches ...Dan,<br /><br />Sanders is on pace right now for 74 catches and 963 yards. I'm not saying he's become a great wr, but I don't really see why Moye needs to be taking snaps away from him.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-77225800960278783342013-10-14T21:01:31.559-04:002013-10-14T21:01:31.559-04:00Patterns have to be pretty damn precise in the NFL...Patterns have to be pretty damn precise in the NFL - unless you like seeing a lot of interceptions.<br /><br />Trust me, Paulson's a better blocker than Moye. Moye weighs 200 pounds soaking wet.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-8595504387457815672013-10-14T20:27:29.632-04:002013-10-14T20:27:29.632-04:00"What does Moye bring to the table that Heath..."What does Moye bring to the table that Heath Miller doesn't? Nothing."<br /><br />I'm certainly not saying that Moye has anything over Miller. Miller has demonstrated how important he is to this offense.<br /><br />However, since you brought up TEs, what does Paulson bring to the table that Moye doesn't? Given Paulsons' appallingly poor blocking, I wouldn't even be totally shocked if Moye could out block him. Yet we continue to trot out the dregs of our TE pool over Moye. Heck, once Spaeth is back they'll probably dress 5 TEs and bench Cotchery as well.<br /><br />Maybe "every play" is hyperbolic, but I would not hesitate to rotate Moye in instead of Sanders. TD this week aside, Sanders has been a disappointment this year. Why not give Moye some shots? How precise do go patterns have to be? Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-83533481473816956952013-10-14T19:46:14.786-04:002013-10-14T19:46:14.786-04:00What does Moye bring to the table that Heath Mille...What does Moye bring to the table that Heath Miller doesn't? Nothing.<br />Saying he should be on the field for every play is ridiculous. Why? Because he had some catches against some scrubs in a preseason game?<br /><br />Nothing against Moye. Nice kid. Glad he made the roster. But his routes aren't very good right now and he plays no special teams.<br /><br />Just because he's tall doesn't mean he's a starter. IF that were the case, Talib Zanna would be trying out for the NFL.<br /><br />As for the team's roster moves, Dwyer was released because his attitude needed an adjustment as much as anything else. Period. Late for meetings. 30 pounds overweight.<br /><br />They didn't trust him. That's all it was about.<br /><br />Adams was inactive because they wanted him to sit and watch. They had another alternative. They thought he needed that to help him gain some focus.<br /><br />It's unfortunate that Brown got hurt. But they gave up nothing to get him.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-71952873044955961152013-10-14T18:12:59.566-04:002013-10-14T18:12:59.566-04:00It is pretty clear tome that Big Money is the hear...It is pretty clear tome that Big Money is the heart of this O. Without him, it doesn't live. Our FO better be targeting a big time TE here with an early pick moving forward cuz Heath only has so many yrs left and it is clear as day how much he means to this team. Be tough to replace (if even possible) but they have to think about it.<br /><br />Troy's hit on the Jets WR was a thing of beauty! I was sure he would get flagged for that as it seems every hard hit is automatically flagged even if it is a perfectly legal hit within even the new boundaries of the "law", which this clearly was. Fun to rewatch it!!<br /><br />Nice feeling to be on the right side of a win today. 0-4 sure makes one appreciate that much more than I realized!!DDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-89771508298961050582013-10-14T17:27:47.202-04:002013-10-14T17:27:47.202-04:00marc,
It's a catch and the clock stops becaus...marc,<br /><br />It's a catch and the clock stops because he has to maintain possession through the hit. He has to catch it, touch in bounds, get hit, eventually end up out of bounds, and still have the ball in his hands. If he had hit in bounds and as he was rolling out of bounds the ball came out it would have been incomplete. If he has to keep the ball then he gets the clock stoppage. It happens all the time just not in the final five of a half where the clock matters.kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-40250423487409287912013-10-14T16:41:23.677-04:002013-10-14T16:41:23.677-04:00i just can't believe they reviewed that play a...i just can't believe they reviewed that play and ruled it a catch AND the clock stops because he goes out of bounds. i agree, dale, in real time that's a tough call. but slow it down and it's just impossible to have both. he either makes the catch and is down (in bounds) before he goes out or he hits simultaneously in/out of bounds which means it is not a catch. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-24678228591934142492013-10-14T16:41:02.735-04:002013-10-14T16:41:02.735-04:00I don't think Moye has show THAT much that he ...I don't think Moye has show THAT much that he needs to be on the field at all times.<br /><br />That said, this season has been an embarrassment for the FO and coaches when it comes to player evaluation...so they deserve some second guessing.<br /><br />Cut Dwyer to mak Redman the starter and now redman isn't even active? Adams is the starter then he's terrible and isn't even active? Levi Brown is the veteran who can help us...yet gets hurt in warm ups?<br />Cortez Allen is so good we don't need Kennan Lewis?<br /><br />Terrible player evaluations so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-69273097547210639322013-10-14T16:35:27.934-04:002013-10-14T16:35:27.934-04:00"Moye on the field at all times? Based on wha..."Moye on the field at all times? Based on what? One regular season catch?"<br /><br />Based on the fact that he's a fast, 6'5" receiver who seems to have good hands. Ben has been begging for a tall receiver for years. Moye's height gives him a tool that Sanders and Cotchery simply don't have.<br /><br />Yeah, Moye has only had one catch this year- a TD catch - but that's a function of him being not being on the field.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-19698239292840802962013-10-14T15:53:57.459-04:002013-10-14T15:53:57.459-04:00Moye on the field at all times? Based on what? One...Moye on the field at all times? Based on what? One regular season catch?<br /><br />I gotta agree with the coaches on this one. He's the fifth receiver.<br /><br />As for the Hill catch, his hand hit down and then his elbow out of bounds, stopping the clock. It was pretty quick, almost simultaneous, so I can see why they called what they called.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-60766331967593509122013-10-14T15:05:51.700-04:002013-10-14T15:05:51.700-04:00Dale,
Any idea why we're not seeing more of M...Dale,<br /><br />Any idea why we're not seeing more of Moye? It would seem ideal to have him in more often, especially in the redzone. He's a huge target of the type Ben is always asking for. It seems like Brown and Moye should be on the field at all times, with a Cotchery & Sanders rotation for WR3.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-81311179373400839082013-10-14T14:56:52.169-04:002013-10-14T14:56:52.169-04:00dale, after seeing the replay of #43's hit, th...dale, after seeing the replay of #43's hit, the refs can't have it both ways.<br /><br />if the WR was rule to have landed in bounds, then he should have been ruled down by contact, based on #43's hit.<br /><br />if the WR was ruled to have gone out of bounds, then it's not a catch.<br /><br />i didn't see the game, but if your explanation is accurate, then i believe that's a very poor call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-73117630244929391202013-10-14T14:37:07.996-04:002013-10-14T14:37:07.996-04:00His hand and one foot came down in bounds and then...His hand and one foot came down in bounds and then he was knocked out of bounds. I believe that was why the clock was stopped.<br /><br />Williams played his best gameDale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-33259866510937734442013-10-14T14:29:44.234-04:002013-10-14T14:29:44.234-04:00Bell was about as good as he could have been. That...Bell was about as good as he could have been. That's a tough Jets defense, and there wasn't much there. He did try to bounce outside once in the first half, and was stuffed by the defense. He should have just taken the 2 or 3 yards that the play would have gotten as originally drawn up.<br /><br />I thought Bell was pretty good in pass protection, too.<br /><br />Is it just me or was Vince Williams really good in this game? He made a couple minor mistakes, but he looked like an NFL-caliber starting linebacker. Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16153045287325441832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-82295641151731698642013-10-14T13:17:31.926-04:002013-10-14T13:17:31.926-04:00That was an amazing escape to prevent the safety t...That was an amazing escape to prevent the safety there. I thought BR was down, but out he popped to get a pass away. In retrospect, that was probably one turning point in the game.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-71375233415329186302013-10-14T11:41:23.888-04:002013-10-14T11:41:23.888-04:00Oops, got the plays mixed up. Thanks for the corre...Oops, got the plays mixed up. Thanks for the correction. Either way I was quite happy to see the way the D-line played.<br /><br />Anyone else think they were hallucinating for a second when Ben escaped that pressure in the end zone early on? Not many QBs get out of that one.<br /><br />Noelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-4114488534158741422013-10-14T11:35:46.299-04:002013-10-14T11:35:46.299-04:00Does anyone know if the officials made a mistake a...Does anyone know if the officials made a mistake at the end of the first half? Troy crushed the receiver and it appears he got one foot and a hand in bounds which would make him down in the field of play. The Jets were out of timeouts so I figured there would be some sort of run-off and end the half. Instead they are allowed to kick a field goal. I guess that officals said the receiver went out of bounds? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-48208059273201781452013-10-14T10:53:41.020-04:002013-10-14T10:53:41.020-04:00I'm wondering where Reggie Dunn is, the Steele...I'm wondering where Reggie Dunn is, the Steelers are woefully lacking in the kick return game. I realize injuries at tight end and O-line made a kick return specialist a luxury but the deeper they go into the season, the more important good field position becomes. Particularly when the season gets cold and those kickoffs don't sail out of the end zone so easily.Steve-Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04777180013652920920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-77368549564499454032013-10-14T10:51:49.218-04:002013-10-14T10:51:49.218-04:00Could also argue that the uptick in the offense ha...Could also argue that the uptick in the offense has come after Brown went to Haley and said he wanted the ball more. He's got 30 catches in the past three games. But Miller has been active in those three games as well. I asked AB if Miller's availability opens things up. He said absolutely because teams have to respect Miller over the middle.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-62302587988679926612013-10-14T10:49:29.932-04:002013-10-14T10:49:29.932-04:00Weren't many running lanes, Marc. Jets load up...Weren't many running lanes, Marc. Jets load up with nine or even 10 at line of scrimmage. They sell out to stop the run at the risk of giving up stuff in the passing game.<br /><br />Heyward was fine. So was Hood, actually.<br /><br />Gay and Allen didn't get a lot of work. Jets don't have great receivers and don't thrown to the outside a lot. Gay did have the recognition on Clark's interception. Told Ryan all the receivers were going deep, which allowed Ryan to play the QB's eyes.<br /><br />Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-63777007858394284842013-10-14T10:35:56.589-04:002013-10-14T10:35:56.589-04:00Great stats on H. Miller - with & without - Da...Great stats on H. Miller - with & without - Dale. Makes me wish the drafted Eifert over Jones even more.DaveNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-57886322669708066042013-10-14T10:34:36.616-04:002013-10-14T10:34:36.616-04:00Heyward got a ton of pressure on Smith on the pote...Heyward got a ton of pressure on Smith on the potential INT that Clark dropped. Ball floated and hit Clark right in the chest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-11374893716935704662013-10-14T10:05:38.868-04:002013-10-14T10:05:38.868-04:00"Heyward played very well I thought. Got push..."Heyward played very well I thought. Got pushed aside a few times against the run but his pressure led directly to the interception by Clark."<br /><br />Noel: Heyward didn't get anywhere near Geno Smith on the Clark interception.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-15711764327952124772013-10-14T10:03:54.523-04:002013-10-14T10:03:54.523-04:00Coach Cowher was awesome in the booth, demonstrati...Coach Cowher was awesome in the booth, demonstrating what an incredible grasp he has of the game. I loved how he called out Simms on several occasions when Simms said dumb things. Would love to see more of that (put Coach Cowher in the booth with Boomer)! Announcers get away with way too much inanity.gregwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12948842348954520467noreply@blogger.com