tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post3329993968110383160..comments2024-01-01T18:41:14.457-05:00Comments on NFL from the sidelines: Pounceys being sued is obvious money grabMoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13612323587459830074noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-83294893493805823132014-07-25T15:45:17.800-04:002014-07-25T15:45:17.800-04:00http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/25/po...http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/25/pounceys-sued-by-three-people-after-alleged-incident-at-nightclub/<br /><br />Well, the suit now has three participants all willing to testify against the Pouncey's now. Not quite he said, she said and more they said vs. we said. A lot will come down to security footage (if it exists).<br /><br />Not sure this is as minor or baseless as Dale indicated and certainly not over enough to insure no potential for NFL discipline at some point in the future.deljzchttp://deljzc.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-489679004171131332014-07-24T02:14:04.947-04:002014-07-24T02:14:04.947-04:00Steelers signed Maurkice Pouncey to a five-year, ...Steelers signed Maurkice Pouncey to a five-year, $44 million extension through 2019. He is very good, but seems to be always injured. He is worth for the salary.SportsFanGalaxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527712437200284540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-54053728333132032422014-07-20T16:00:47.156-04:002014-07-20T16:00:47.156-04:00Yes, Tom. They were simply being precautionary wit...Yes, Tom. They were simply being precautionary with Worilds in the offseason. They weren't going to push him, especially since they wanted to take a good long look at the young linebackers on the roster.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-71965993810803314082014-07-20T15:45:15.761-04:002014-07-20T15:45:15.761-04:00DEL jzc just stop already you clearly have ulterio...DEL jzc just stop already you clearly have ulterior motives to drum up interest in PFF. You're writing style and formatting matches the anonymous commentor from above who was blatantly pimping PFF. If Dale's opinion strikes you so vehemently, then please enjoy another blog (maybe PFF will have room for one more in the circlejerk?) Trolololol<br /><br />Now can we please talk about Steelers football?! <br />Dale, how healthy is Worilds? Full participant next week?Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-3481040538785440702014-07-20T13:49:15.546-04:002014-07-20T13:49:15.546-04:00everyone come over later, me and kyle are going to...everyone come over later, me and kyle are going to smoke a piece pipe and play bongos while calmly discussing PFF, the Steelers chances this year and Mike Tomlin's future<br /><br />say 8 ish?Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-9061144250288610682014-07-20T13:47:59.703-04:002014-07-20T13:47:59.703-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-66172581400923366292014-07-20T13:01:42.373-04:002014-07-20T13:01:42.373-04:00I absolutely do not have to slant things any way t...I absolutely do not have to slant things any way to gain access.<br />Completely and utterly not true. I also rip the team when I feel it is needed.<br />This thread has nothing to do with that subject. Hence, you are attempting to hijack the thread for some purpose. TrollDale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-83192188024574204922014-07-20T11:59:11.003-04:002014-07-20T11:59:11.003-04:00And I will add this. I didn't bring back up P...And I will add this. I didn't bring back up PFF in this thread (9th comment). That wasn't me.<br /><br />However, I did get back involved when Dale said "Anyone that thinks Rivers had a better season than Brady has to get their head examined". I don't even think Dale looked at the numbers before saying that. In any unbiased analysis, Rivers had a MUCH BETTER SEASON than Brady. And it's really not even close. His stats were noticeably better and he led a much more prolific and balanced offense. I'm the one that made the detailed comments about how Rivers was in fact better than Brday (only to hear squat from Dale on that post).<br /><br />That is called a discussion to disagree even after Dale implied I need to get my head examined (way to take the high road).<br /><br />If you want to intelligently debate Heyward, that's fine too. I agree he's on the rise, but he is not better than Watt, Wilkenson or Campbell. And might be as good as Jordan, Richardson and Casey if he continues his path. And the old guys Justin Smith and Jason Hatcher continue to be relevant 3-4 DE's as well.DEL jzchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255982939653441382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-52297447201179251352014-07-20T11:29:18.568-04:002014-07-20T11:29:18.568-04:00I don't work for PFF at all. Didn't even ...I don't work for PFF at all. Didn't even get involved in the conversation until a LOT of other chatter on PFF.<br /><br />I don't even have a membership.<br /><br />A troll implies I don't come to this website for other reasons. I do. I always read Dale's blog. There's limited but sometimes useful information here, it's just very biased and pro-Steelers. He has to keep it that way to continue to gain access to inside information.<br /><br />If you can't see through the one-sided analysis or think Dale's views are neutral, then I would suggest getting information from other sources to broaden your horizons.DEL jzchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255982939653441382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-26500584533107720022014-07-20T08:31:19.973-04:002014-07-20T08:31:19.973-04:00show yourself troll. Love this blogshow yourself troll. Love this blogGreg Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422363877767986764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-71089461712051462942014-07-19T21:43:37.042-04:002014-07-19T21:43:37.042-04:00I've got no problem with someone disagreeing w...I've got no problem with someone disagreeing with me. No big deal. I do take issue with somebody constantly trying to rant about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic(s) at hand.<br />Obviously, the poster in question was working for a certain web site and trying to drive traffic there. Troll.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-16473588546375805852014-07-19T21:39:10.098-04:002014-07-19T21:39:10.098-04:00I love it when people come to my FREE blog and com...I love it when people come to my FREE blog and complain. You're welcome not to come back. I certainly won't miss you. Nor will anyone else.<br />Exactly what are you bringing to the conversation other than hijacking my blog with PFF tripe?Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-14051455937118010572014-07-19T20:12:35.173-04:002014-07-19T20:12:35.173-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.DEL jzchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255982939653441382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-73244633940477197232014-07-19T17:45:56.978-04:002014-07-19T17:45:56.978-04:00https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/
S...https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/<br /><br />Scroll down to.. 4) The “Rules” of Grading<br /><br />Hopefully that will calm some of you down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-87391155961092886022014-07-19T17:41:43.450-04:002014-07-19T17:41:43.450-04:00That's not how PFF works BlackNGold. It's ...That's not how PFF works BlackNGold. It's a player grading system, you can't look at it as a team thing or it won't make sense. It's not supposed to translate to wins based on player grades like that idiot writing that article is trying to make it sound like they're doing.<br /><br />let's say 10 defenders do very well on a play and each get a grade of 1. Then there's one corner in man-coverage who gives up a touchdown and gets a, let's say -1 grade. That's a +9 team grade for that play even tho a touchdown was given up.<br /><br />That might not make much sense but hopefully there's some sense to it.<br /><br />It's kinda how I always looked at Chris Kemoeatu, no matter how well the other 4 lineman played, he always found a way to mess everything up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-1488250623141634512014-07-19T07:29:26.371-04:002014-07-19T07:29:26.371-04:00Supposedly the twins announced their birthday part...Supposedly the twins announced their birthday party on social media. If so, it would've been easy for a couple people to cook up a scheme to crash the party, cause a little ruckus, then accuse the Pouncey's assault or whatever. <br /><br />Deservedly or not, the twins also have bit of a bad rep (Martin case and "free Hernandez" hats). It likely wasn't much of leap for someone to believe a "public incident" and subsequent lawsuit would result in a big payout. I doubt they expected the twins to threaten to countersue.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-38781575692087817882014-07-19T03:01:21.892-04:002014-07-19T03:01:21.892-04:00Away from the PFF conversation, I wanted to put a ...Away from the PFF conversation, I wanted to put a bow on the absurdity of the Pouncey suit. As much as old stick in the mud fans might want to deny them, a newly minted millionaire should be allowed to have a party with friends at an exclusive night club. <br /><br />The leeches that attempt to take advantage of these situations should be treated with the disrespect that they are due. The "hot water" that was referenced in an earlier post does not seem rooted in reality and instead is an emotional response to the "Free Hernandez" lids from last year (before the full scope of the story had been discovered by any of us). A rule of thumb: if you are thinking a 6-time SB championship "organization panicked", then acknowledge that you simply don't have anywhere near enough information or insight to render an opinion of any value. <br /><br />Before someone can be labeled a rapist or a thug, we should at least require an arrest to have been made. 0-3 by my count between Ben and MP. Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-24038273892923406332014-07-19T02:12:13.123-04:002014-07-19T02:12:13.123-04:00I'm not saying it's not valuable. I'm ...I'm not saying it's not valuable. I'm just saying it shouldn't be used as the be-all, end-all fact. Period. Now please, go back to PFF - where you apparently work or something - and quit hijacking my blog.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-32546649194332831412014-07-19T02:09:54.473-04:002014-07-19T02:09:54.473-04:00I guess there's no way to determine if a playe...I guess there's no way to determine if a player is doing there job or not. Too many variables.<br /><br />Funny how Dale somehow magically determines Cameron Heyward is one of the "top" 3-4 DE's in the league. How did he do that exactly? Not watching games? Or is he just regurgitating "inside info" from our coaching staff?<br /><br />You guys are talking in circles. You want to rip PFF, but then admit watching games is still better at determining good or bad play than any other method out there (certainly better than limited stats like tackles or sacks).<br /><br />Are there flaws? Yes, but it's better than the old days when people would spew how much better player X was vs. player Y because of 10 sacks or 100 tackles.<br /><br />You can live in the past all you want, but film analysis by sources "other than teams" is getting better all the time. And situational allowances are right around the corner (to allow for Ike to just let Gordon supposedly catch all those catches).<br /><br />Most of what PFF puts out there is pretty accurate in my opinion. It's not yet as good as WAR or some of the "Wins Above Average" type of stuff baseball does, but it's getting better every year.<br /><br />There are still some gaps in positional value and whether JJ Watt's +100 PFF rating equals more wins than Philip Rivers' +50 rating (it probably doesn't).<br /><br />But when it comes to rating non-quarterbacks, it's one of the first to attempt what they are trying and I think it is very valuable information.<br /><br />To ignore it would be very ignorant and close minded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-5305655468592491832014-07-18T19:59:46.840-04:002014-07-18T19:59:46.840-04:00Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a couple of winner...Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a couple of winners on those last two posts.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-92029105232143099792014-07-18T19:55:05.236-04:002014-07-18T19:55:05.236-04:00it is not hard to comprehend, it is just practical...it is not hard to comprehend, it is just practically useless information. Coaches and front offices don't use it. I think the metrics in baseball are so good, they want that type of analysis applied to football. Unfortuneately, it is like putting a square peg in a round hole. Football is too complicated and there are too many variables on every play and there is way more strategy in football as well. Take the huge game Josh Gordon had on Ike. Most of that happened in the second half after the Steelers had a huge lead. Ike played off and let him catch a lot of passes. That was the game plan. Conversely, when offenses have big leads they typically run the ball a lot on first and second down. The defense expects is and plays for it and typically slows down the run game. That gameplan affects things. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-90927852765396022942014-07-18T19:34:59.895-04:002014-07-18T19:34:59.895-04:00Just curious but does PFF have copies of all the p...Just curious but does PFF have copies of all the playbooks so they know who was supposed to do what on each and every play during their, apparently voluminous, film study? If not, I call hokum on their analysis and can't believe anyone takes them seriously. I do give PFF props for self-promoting themselves as a serious blog, though.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-89998449195477680522014-07-18T17:04:55.191-04:002014-07-18T17:04:55.191-04:00PFF Rankings are statistics based on actual events...PFF Rankings are statistics based on actual events, yes it's someone watching film, but it's still X happened so Y results. So just like completion percentage they do not take into account weather or the silly "what if" a player played on another team or switched teams. By all statistical measure, Tom Brady had a down year and Philip Rivers had an up year. Rivers completed 69.3% of his passes, produces 4550 yards in 544 drop backs, was sacked only 30 times, committed only 13 turnovers and led the 2nd most prolific offense in the league (2.46 points per possession). Tom Brady completed 60.5% of his passes, produced 4361 yards in 628 drop backs, was sacked 40 times, committed 14 turnovers and led an offense that produced 2.16 points per possession (9th or 10th in the league).<br /><br />PFF never said Rivers was better than Brady, but Rivers DID have a better season. PFF never said if Brady was on the Chargers he would or would not put up better or worse numbers. That's very hypothetical mumbo-jumbo. All PFF is saying that based on the 544 drop backs Rivers had vs. the 628 drop backs Brady had, Rivers did a better job in their estimation of film study.<br /><br />How hard is that to comprehend?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-22006494119055286042014-07-18T15:52:42.126-04:002014-07-18T15:52:42.126-04:00Nope. None of that.Nope. None of that.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-43449897544449568892014-07-18T11:25:11.517-04:002014-07-18T11:25:11.517-04:00I don't read PFF, so I have to ask about their...I don't read PFF, so I have to ask about their methodology.<br /><br />When they ranked Rivers and Brady, how did they correct for half of Rivers games being in San Diego weather, while Brady had half his games in New England weather? What adjustment for dome QBs (like Brees) vs. outdoor QBs?Marknoreply@blogger.com