tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post6061644940809511756..comments2024-01-01T18:41:14.457-05:00Comments on NFL from the sidelines: Steelers-Ravens thoughts IIMoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13612323587459830074noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-9415998033017859402011-11-08T19:49:42.678-05:002011-11-08T19:49:42.678-05:00Interesting thread.
While I don't excuse the ...Interesting thread.<br /><br />While I don't excuse the defense for the let down, I do think that Tomlin's hesitation set the tone for what came next.KThttp://steelcurtainrising.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-47614029566921501882011-11-08T14:23:36.869-05:002011-11-08T14:23:36.869-05:00one last thing before i agree to disagree.
i woul...one last thing before i agree to disagree.<br /><br />i would not say my thought is conservative and hoping the other team makes a mistake.<br /><br />rather, by putting 7 DB's and 2 LB's into coverage, forcing flacco to do something he is not very good at -- making a very accurate throw.<br /><br />ok - on to cincy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-26423469487905313622011-11-08T13:47:09.749-05:002011-11-08T13:47:09.749-05:00The Steelers have recently changed to playing more...The Steelers have recently changed to playing more man coverage because their cornerbacks are much better playing man than they are at playing zone.<br /><br />So, in my mind, the coach was putting the players in the best position they could have been to be successful. Play to your players strengths:<br /><br />1) Man coverage<br />2) Pressuring the QB<br /><br />Oh well, we can debate this all day. But, in the end it comes down to either being conservative and hope that the other team makes a mistake or being aggressive and hope that someone on your team makes a play.<br /><br />I'd opt for the latter, you'd go with the former.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-89569651636201830042011-11-08T13:36:01.137-05:002011-11-08T13:36:01.137-05:00not sure why i'm more wrong. it's obvious...not sure why i'm more wrong. it's obvious in the chalk talk (i just watched) that clark wasn't deep middle, but he certainly wasn't even close to being in position. basically he was forced to play overtop 2 WR's (inside guy and outside guy).<br /><br />and it still doesn't change the fact they were playing bump and run coverage. one could argue if clark hadn't cheated towards the middle boldin may have been open down the middle.<br /><br />fact remains, they played the defense that gave baltimore the greatest chance of success in that situation. bad call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-90451029480635347832011-11-08T13:14:22.925-05:002011-11-08T13:14:22.925-05:00marc,
I watched Chalk Talk on the Steelers.com an...marc,<br /><br />I watched Chalk Talk on the Steelers.com and it turns out that I was wrong, but you are even more wrong.<br /><br />The Steelers had 3 safeties in the game on the final play. Mundy, Clark, and Troy. Mundy and Clark split the field deep and Troy was playing center field.<br /><br />Clark should have been deeper, but wasn't.<br /><br />Not the most conservative call in the world, but not really all that aggressive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-68369162368534613272011-11-08T11:53:19.450-05:002011-11-08T11:53:19.450-05:00i'm sorry, i meant to say on the 26 yard line ...i'm sorry, i meant to say on the 26 yard line with roughly 15 seconds left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-70815352969619022372011-11-08T11:51:13.233-05:002011-11-08T11:51:13.233-05:00patrick, you've got to consider the situation....patrick, you've got to consider the situation. you don't want prevent when the other team is starting the drive on their own 8. but when they're knocking on your door with 26 seconds left what makes it harder for them to score?<br /><br />bump and run coverage on the outside or 9 guys dropping into coverage in a 26 yard piece of field?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-91274263021189216492011-11-08T11:38:27.310-05:002011-11-08T11:38:27.310-05:00does everyone remember when we used to cry all the...does everyone remember when we used to cry all the time about the D running a prevent facing similar situations?<br /><br />am I crazy or was that not the #1 complaint in 2009?Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-5042153130766465772011-11-08T11:32:51.330-05:002011-11-08T11:32:51.330-05:00Marc is correct. Watch Chalk Talk on Steelers.com...Marc is correct. Watch Chalk Talk on Steelers.com. Tunch lays it out. Clark was late getting over because he was cheating in the middle of the field. Watch the tape. No way can that defense be described as prevent. Prevent meaning flooding the backfield and preventing a touchdown. Remember the time left on the clock. Blame Gay and Clark all you want but the coaches screwed up.<br />JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-77034475939272674392011-11-08T11:20:42.754-05:002011-11-08T11:20:42.754-05:00don't know what you were watching. clark line...don't know what you were watching. clark lined up deep middle. he didn't break to his left until the ball was in the air and he was a good 2 steps late. clark was far from being in the right position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-68197190350642941172011-11-08T11:15:53.122-05:002011-11-08T11:15:53.122-05:00Ummm...yes there were 2 safeties deep. Troy took ...Ummm...yes there were 2 safeties deep. Troy took half the field and Clark took the other half. Go back and watch again.<br /><br />Either way it makes no difference, the play was double covered and Clark was in the right position to make the play...he just didn't.<br /><br />Blame the coaches all you want, but in the end the players have to execute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-73751206786714120312011-11-08T11:00:09.078-05:002011-11-08T11:00:09.078-05:00Marc,
You are absolutely correct. With the down,...Marc,<br /><br />You are absolutely correct. With the down, distance, and time on the clock the defense should have looked at it like a Hail Mary Situation. The goal was to KEEP THEM OUT OF THE ENDZONE!!! Flood the freaking backfield with DBs.<br /><br />The Steelers should never have gotten to that situation in the first place. They had the ball at the Balt. 29 yd line with 2:37 (third and 5). Right there it is a 44 yd FG. Run it again, get positive yardage and BLEED the clock. Say they set up Suisam for a 42 yarder (very doable). Tomlin has to trust a pro kicker to get a 42 or so yarder. Stupid!!<br /><br />JimboAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-79532742068715532812011-11-08T10:35:34.823-05:002011-11-08T10:35:34.823-05:00first of all, they didn't have 2 safeties deep...first of all, they didn't have 2 safeties deep if i read what you wrote correctly.<br /><br />secondly, let's keep trying to fit a square into a round hole. pressure, pressure, pressure...blah, blah blah. how about taking into consideration the game situation. roughly 15 seconds left on the 26 yard line with 1 timeout remaining, need a TD to win. hmmm...think they're going for the endzone or darn close to it?<br /><br />wait, could we be "different" or "unpredictable?" 2 DL, 2 LB and 7 DB's (did we dress that many?)? do you think flacco could complete a pass of any substance against that? i don't.<br /><br />it's a short field and there is no threat of a run. drop back and fill it with defenders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-22708984938547882112011-11-08T10:34:30.455-05:002011-11-08T10:34:30.455-05:00of course the players take blame also. ben's...of course the players take blame also. ben's stupid interception..johnsons drop...clark not getting over. all very bad plays on the field<br /><br />this offense has had plenty of weapons the last few years and is not consistent. stats are for fantasy. they haven't scored enough touchdowns for a few years. a lot of people are down on mendy, but we have not used him like we should of have since he came out of college. run out of a spread evry now and then and let him use his speed, use him to catch passes every week. he did that over and over at illinois<br /><br />i realize it is the nature of the beast to get a little complacent at the top and teams like the ravens look at us and build to beat us. i think harbaugh is a douche, but he has done a good job with his team. we have plenty of talent to not take a complete beat down from them and then a loss we easily could have won<br /><br />as i said, it was a good football game to watch, but harder to take a loss like that, than the utter anhillation of week 1 for me. now we are looking at the possiblity of not making the playoffs, that is unacceptable with the talent on this teamjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592051452280759943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-27658001872780649862011-11-08T10:34:21.948-05:002011-11-08T10:34:21.948-05:00anonymous above makes very good points
(can't...anonymous above makes very good points<br /><br />(can't believe I just typed that)Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-147770364509095872011-11-08T10:20:35.344-05:002011-11-08T10:20:35.344-05:00I don't think the defensive calls late in the ...I don't think the defensive calls late in the game were overly aggressive. Man cover with 2 safeties deep is aggressive, but not overly so.<br /><br />I'd rather they err on the side of being too aggressive on their calls. They needed to get pressure and that's what they were trying to do. That is the Steelers' strength, I'd rather play to a strength.<br /><br />The fact that Tony Dungy thinks he was being overly aggressive doesn't sway my opinion. I've seen Dungy get beat way too many times by playing it safe to take his opinion on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-75842542679806895212011-11-08T09:44:10.280-05:002011-11-08T09:44:10.280-05:00dale, that's why i blame lebeua for poor defen...dale, that's why i blame lebeua for poor defensive calls at the end. <br /><br />he decided it was better to put gay in a position he doesn't excel at and only have one guy (clark) provide over the top help when the ravens were lining up with WR's split wide to both sides. clark can't help on both sides. the players were not in a position to succeed, imo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-46990763547980596862011-11-08T02:14:13.671-05:002011-11-08T02:14:13.671-05:00Anyone, including this poster, can see the absolut...Anyone, including this poster, can see the absolute inconsistency in play. It started out terrible (Ravens) went back and forth between bad and okay; then great against the Patriots (the Steelers I love to watch) then again up, down with the Ravens again.<br /><br />What is going on? Can't blame it on the players, they have have taken the public and media abuse during the inconsistent game plans, and the physical punishment. <br /><br />Maybe 'blame; is not the word to use here. Maybe just responsible is. Who is responsible for the Jack in the box changes? Who calls these plays? Who is really coaching the Steeler team? <br /><br />One more thing: I think the Steeler organization owes it's fans more that the disorganized pay. Millions are spent to watch these Steeler games. Millions make millionaires for franchise owners. <br /><br />Yeah. I know but something is wrong here.Madelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11302399475017841593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-9173739454697634622011-11-07T22:51:46.509-05:002011-11-07T22:51:46.509-05:00This is a Steeler team with a lot of good young pl...This is a Steeler team with a lot of good young players, a few solid veterans and yes a few aging stars but they continue to improve week by week and the season is only at the midpoint. I'll take 6-3 and given the rest of their schedule this season I think there's a solid chance the Steelers will make the playoffs if they don't win the division. If they get healthy the have the ability to beat any team in the conference.<br /><br />There's a lot of season left and I still believe the Steelers have what it takes to beat the Ravens in the playoffs (on the road if it comes to that).Steve-Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04777180013652920920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-89813660756155044182011-11-07T22:09:19.959-05:002011-11-07T22:09:19.959-05:00There was a few things
1 Tomlin still has not mast...There was a few things<br />1 Tomlin still has not mastered the art of game time management.<br />2 we really need a healthy Woodley and Harrison.<br />3 Gay is nothing more than Nickel back.<br />4 The OL is starting to look good and whomever was at fault for not even giving Foster a shot at RG at the start of the season needs to explain himself.<br />5 Everyone who questioned if Starks can handle a quality pass rusher should have gotten there answer last night.<br />6 If Mendy a true #1 back then why is he not on the field on the most important drives?<br />7 the steelers need to find a K they have faith in<br />8 Go to Cinny and Winbruinmann77https://www.blogger.com/profile/00306299925666439375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-24623754090116893882011-11-07T20:24:03.704-05:002011-11-07T20:24:03.704-05:00Yepper, the Ravens built their team for the sole p...Yepper, the Ravens built their team for the sole purpose to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. <br /><br />I was unsure who would win this game, but I did believe the defense would play better after the good game they had against the Patriots.<br />They had some good stops, but when the game was on the line, and a field goal wont tie it, they let themselves down.....<br /><br />Now Cincy doesnt look like such any easy win, does it?!?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-30122151492355591312011-11-07T18:55:09.604-05:002011-11-07T18:55:09.604-05:00Here's the bottom line: The Ravens imrpoved th...Here's the bottom line: The Ravens imrpoved their team during the free agency period while the Steelers didn't fix their super weak cornerbacks problem. And, the Ravens exploited that fact all night. So, while Taylor & Gay sucked, there is no-one to blame but Tomlin & Mgt. for not fixing a known problem. Did they think there was going somehow going to be DIVINE INTERVENTION AND THOSE WEAK CORNERS WERE SOMEHOW MAGICALLY GOING TO GET BETTER?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-53492834411140884012011-11-07T18:10:12.399-05:002011-11-07T18:10:12.399-05:00tomlin and caldwell must read
http://www.johntreed...tomlin and caldwell must read<br />http://www.johntreed.com/FCM.htmlemiliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10275443501643608144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-43604460852132235132011-11-07T17:47:13.484-05:002011-11-07T17:47:13.484-05:00marc, that bubble screen was BR's call from th...marc, that bubble screen was BR's call from the no huddle, not the coach's call. I agree the Steelers should take the bubble screen along with the sweep and toss sweep out of their playbook. They haven't run any of those plays well for over 40 years.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-8597927505961995692011-11-07T17:18:07.280-05:002011-11-07T17:18:07.280-05:00Ryan Clark was supposed to be his help over the to...Ryan Clark was supposed to be his help over the top. He was late getting over.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.com