tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post6163894426413485296..comments2024-01-01T18:41:14.457-05:00Comments on NFL from the sidelines: Tuesday with TomlinMoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13612323587459830074noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-26467946560328783852014-10-03T07:46:46.839-04:002014-10-03T07:46:46.839-04:00Exactly.Exactly.Anonymous Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-13117491850413041962014-10-02T19:58:24.675-04:002014-10-02T19:58:24.675-04:00Good, it's settled.
You can't pass out of...Good, it's settled.<br /><br />You can't pass out of a run formation. I wonder if you can run out of a pass formation?<br /><br /><br /><br />Ben said if Heath was uncovered he could pass, if he was covered then it's a run play.<br /><br />~SBKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-48221525280715186742014-10-02T17:29:11.487-04:002014-10-02T17:29:11.487-04:00My take is that Tomlin told Haley / Ben to run the...My take is that Tomlin told Haley / Ben to run the ball. (Maybe they, or at least Haley anyway, agreed with this.)<br /><br />Then at the press conference, Tomlin gave a long-winded account of the play, specifying blocking numbers (technically correct, but if you look at the play again...) and that Ben made the "correct" decision.<br /><br />When really, it was just:<br /><br />Tomlin told Haley / Ben to run the ball.<br /><br />On Tuesday, Tomlin was trying to give the impression that things were more complicated than that. So in a very technical sense, Tomlin was giving an honest explanation, but in reality, sort of not.<br /><br />(Either that or Ben is the one full of it. I say Tomlin in this case. He's not Owning his Obvious decision to pay turtle / clock / trust the rookie punter and defense more than Ben / Brown / Miller.)<br /><br /> <br />Anonymous Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-78563168544099112952014-10-02T12:19:24.622-04:002014-10-02T12:19:24.622-04:00It's just like those hot route smoke screens. ...It's just like those hot route smoke screens. Ben doesn't seem to have much trouble checking in to those. Tomlin even mentioned how the blocking broke down, which to a degree lets Ben off the hook. It seems like Tomlin stated things factually and Ben got prickly which he always does when he's questioned about anything that's gone wrong.kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-27754016694397215602014-10-02T12:09:56.365-04:002014-10-02T12:09:56.365-04:00No, I meant when Tomlin said it was a “run/pass” o...No, I meant when Tomlin said it was a “run/pass” option play and Ben chose the run option. Looks like Ben is saying there wasn’t much pass option on that play. Theosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09780515048906877442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-82810645060344755942014-10-02T12:03:46.151-04:002014-10-02T12:03:46.151-04:00Quote Theosa: Looks like Big Ben got even with Mik...Quote Theosa: Looks like Big Ben got even with Mike Tomlin who pretty much held Ben responsible for calling the run play on 3rd and 5.<br /><br />Me: You mean when Tomlin said Ben called the correct play for the defense he was seeing?<br /><br />~SBKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-47149865008841145492014-10-02T10:37:54.423-04:002014-10-02T10:37:54.423-04:00Many of the penalties are a side effect of having ...Many of the penalties are a side effect of having so many young players on the field. Veterans generally commit fewer penalties.<br /><br />That said, there is no excuse for THIS MANY penalties, even with a young team. Tomlin really needs to do something. Even if it means benching guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-50837720725037555402014-10-02T10:17:46.630-04:002014-10-02T10:17:46.630-04:00That missed holding call against Spence on the TD ...That missed holding call against Spence on the TD was about as egregious as it gets and it happened right in front of the ref and along Martin's route to the end zone. I was in the last row of seats in the stadium on the opposite 20 yard line and could see that Spence was turned significantly by the blocker. Otherwise, he would have made the tackle. I was yelling holding before Martin entered the end zone. Not to excuse Cam Heyward's response, but that was a HUGE missed call at a critical point in the game. Tomlin is not afraid to run out on the field during play, so I wonder why he held back on that play.rvaccarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069184523350019117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-64521128844785778462014-10-02T09:52:40.329-04:002014-10-02T09:52:40.329-04:00Obviously...Obviously...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-6381426301895573542014-10-02T09:00:58.846-04:002014-10-02T09:00:58.846-04:00there should be a ban on fans trying to cleverly u...there should be a ban on fans trying to cleverly use 'unleash hell' and 'the standard is the standard' in criticism of tomlin. just from an entertainment standpoint i want to see something more originalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-47778405477496005032014-10-02T09:00:21.205-04:002014-10-02T09:00:21.205-04:00Big Ben on the 3rd and 5 call as quoted by ESPN’s ...Big Ben on the 3rd and 5 call as quoted by ESPN’s Scott Brown;<br />"The line was run-blocking all the way, so it’s not like you can drop back and throw a pass, if you want to call that a run-pass option, I guess it is. But it’s pretty much a run, and we have to believe that we can get that when it’s called."<br />Looks like Big Ben got even with Mike Tomlin who pretty much held Ben responsible for calling the run play on 3rd and 5. Very interesting week in Burgh indeed! First Antonio Brown not showing Tomlin respect by turning his back on him after the celebration penalty and now Big Ben keeping the record straight. Maybe Tomlin was on defense when he tried to link him being called “Coach’s Player” to racism, and maybe his seat is warmed up a little bit. In any case this has been a bad week for Mike Tomlin.Theosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09780515048906877442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-37591990380873048852014-10-02T06:41:24.198-04:002014-10-02T06:41:24.198-04:00Get used to mediocrity because the standard is the...Get used to mediocrity because the standard is the standard. Coach Tomlin's words not mine.Snarkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-33651180865656894192014-10-02T02:31:03.844-04:002014-10-02T02:31:03.844-04:00"Also, his criticism of Brown's penalty w..."Also, his criticism of Brown's penalty while excusing Heyward's is flat out stupid. As to Brown, Tomlin says Brown needs to act like he's been there before. As to Heyward, Tomlin would have personally drawn THE SAME PENALTY. Is he insane? Does he not see the inconsistency here? Maybe Heyward needs to act like he's been there before too and accept that the refs blow some calls. "<br /><br />IMHO there is a world of difference between showboating after a great play and becoming frustrated with poor officiating. I find it very easy to excuse the latter not so much the former. It brings to mind a few years ago when Anthony Smith pulled his little "look at me" routine and Coach L grabbed him by the face mask and made it very clear that was a no no. I was quite pleased thinking "you tell 'em coach"<br /><br />Thanks for the Blog Dale. I check it everyday and I appreciate everyone's insight. I hope we haven't returned to the '80's ... I don't think I can handle a decade of mediocrity.Bobby Gust 'drazl'https://www.blogger.com/profile/08877401553621359154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-36105472673149370002014-10-02T01:56:03.482-04:002014-10-02T01:56:03.482-04:00For the record, Suisham is 4/14 from 50+, 28.5% of...For the record, Suisham is 4/14 from 50+, 28.5% of the time. Still not a good percentage - and not considering Heinz field attempts.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-70967876637089125402014-10-02T01:53:39.760-04:002014-10-02T01:53:39.760-04:002 things that annoyed me about Tomlin's presse...2 things that annoyed me about Tomlin's presser - saying Suisham can make at 50 is lying. Suisham makes 50+ about 10% of his career. I'm not firing up the Suisham debate - he is a a very consistent mid range kicker and thats all - but why can't Tomlin get this? Its been over 4 seasons since his horrible decision to kick a long FG against GB in the SB and a similar attempt against loser Ten not long ago. Why can't he get it? Suisham can't hit those, don't take the chance if you don't absolutely need to (i.e., down by three or less with little time) - punt or go for it<br /><br />Also, his criticism of Brown's penalty while excusing Heyward's is flat out stupid. As to Brown, Tomlin says Brown needs to act like he's been there before. As to Heyward, Tomlin would have personally drawn THE SAME PENALTY. Is he insane? Does he not see the inconsistency here? Maybe Heyward needs to act like he's been there before too and accept that the refs blow some calls. <br /><br />I can't accept the things that come out of this guy's mouth. I just don't think he is a very intelligent coach, from game to media.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-79735569426102468622014-10-01T17:16:57.564-04:002014-10-01T17:16:57.564-04:00How many low balls did Ben have to pick up off the...How many low balls did Ben have to pick up off the turf from bad snaps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-71024605597440238682014-10-01T14:46:16.859-04:002014-10-01T14:46:16.859-04:00anon brian,
good points. I do think the "4th...anon brian,<br />good points. I do think the "4th and 3 Ben Punting" is another one of those play options he has. if the matchup seems right, go for it, if not, then punt it. I'm just guessing though.<br /><br />I too was wondering where shamarko was? has he fallen off the cliff?<br /><br />also, I'm starting to get the impression lance moore dug himself some kind of hole. no reason he shouldn't be out there ahead of brown.<br /><br />finally, the steelers are so bad at OLB that they sign a guy out of retirement and he plays 27 snaps in the first game? wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-64394035192080960912014-10-01T14:23:16.378-04:002014-10-01T14:23:16.378-04:00Dale,
In your opinion, did Tomlin play the race c...Dale,<br /><br />In your opinion, did Tomlin play the race card yesterday? If so, I may be done with him.<br /><br />Keep up the great work!<br /><br />-gregGreg Mercerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08562321900252424683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-6019887516128017122014-10-01T13:41:28.988-04:002014-10-01T13:41:28.988-04:00Tomlin's take doesn't change anything.
Th...Tomlin's take doesn't change anything.<br /><br />The details about who called what on the third-and-5, DeCastro getting blown up, etc. obscure the glaringly obvious fact that the defense cannot be trusted. And an average punt would not make me feel any more confident in the defense being able to hold there.<br /><br />In other words, just the fact that the run v. pass is even an option, IMO, makes it a too-risky call even if it's not bad, awful, fire everybody, etc. It's actually more conservative, gives you a better chance to win, to just have Ben sling it there. That's why he has that contract.<br /><br />It's the 3rd-and-6 QB sweep vs. Jax in 2007 vs. the 3rd-and-6 completion to Brown to secure the 2010 AFFCG. (Heck, I'm almost perfectly fine with Ben getting strip-sacked there to lose the game compared to what happened, at least it would be a change! :) )<br /><br />This goes for the cute 4th-and-3 Ben punt as well.<br /><br />The ability of the defense the last 5-6 years to give up leads and game-losing drives is astounding.<br /><br />Tomlin's "crazy" onside kick vs. Green Bay in 2009 is very much not crazy.<br /><br />(Great article on another site from yesterday about this. The analytics stuff sometimes gets overplayed. In this case it's not "advanced" stats at all but just obviously shows how risky "conservative" play on offense is with the Steelers' defense the last 6 years or so.)<br /><br />Any chance Shamarko Thomas sees the field in some fashion? Nickel? Give Troy a breather? They did trade up for him and he laid some hits in 2nd-string preseason. Why not? Doghouse or just numbers game or is he just not that good?<br /><br />I still think they'll be 6-5, maybe even 7-4 going into their bye.Anonymous Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-17706334596016695772014-10-01T12:17:05.337-04:002014-10-01T12:17:05.337-04:00Although the mess in Oakland can certainly make an...Although the mess in Oakland can certainly make an argument for being the worstDale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-38652563864746920082014-10-01T12:16:43.725-04:002014-10-01T12:16:43.725-04:00Tampa Bay is not the worst team in the NFL. They w...Tampa Bay is not the worst team in the NFL. They will be playing that team this week.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-44159624794927397292014-10-01T12:03:02.434-04:002014-10-01T12:03:02.434-04:00Tomlin's reaction to being called a players co...Tomlin's reaction to being called a players coach says more about the pressure he is under than anything else.<br /><br />His team has struggled for two straight years and just lost to the worst team in the NFL. His seat feels a little hot.<br /><br />Personally, I think Colbert is the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-34133093139145526422014-10-01T07:36:05.348-04:002014-10-01T07:36:05.348-04:00Here is a point that I think needs mentioning...Ev...Here is a point that I think needs mentioning...Every team in the NFL has looked bad at times. Some teams for longer stretches than others, but even Seattle and Denver have had their bad moments. <br /><br />I think this goes back to the way they practice in the offseason and training camp. The first quarter of the season is just getting the teams into shape. I hope the next 12 games are better for the Steelers, but really, there is no reason at this point to get too worried.<br /><br />There is a case to be made that the Bengals are the best team through the first four weeks. I guess we will find out where the Steelers stand when we play them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-50172153660336401202014-10-01T02:06:31.683-04:002014-10-01T02:06:31.683-04:00I do not feel comfortable about this game at all, ...I do not feel comfortable about this game at all, Jax is certainly young in important skill positions as Dale has said but that doesn't mean the Steelers match up well. Pitt has to have the smallest secondary in the AFC, maybe even NFL. I'm not a pessimist, but rather a realist. If I'm the Jags I let my rookie stud loose to see what he can do against our lowly secondary. Cortez Allen's problem isn't physical, it's mental. He has the talent to be a solid #2 corner in the NFL, but right now he has very little confidence (swagger, if you will) and he seems to get down during the games. Poor body language IMO.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-90094659301816324642014-09-30T21:23:33.065-04:002014-09-30T21:23:33.065-04:00who cares what Tomlin says, he's an idiot and ...who cares what Tomlin says, he's an idiot and a horrible coach<br /><br />when are they gonna unleash hell?<br /><br />lmaoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com