tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post8309987814312474622..comments2024-01-01T18:41:14.457-05:00Comments on NFL from the sidelines: Players I expect to make a leap forward for SteelersMoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13612323587459830074noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-21145302707671508062013-05-17T11:59:30.721-04:002013-05-17T11:59:30.721-04:00If Woodley's relatively healthy he's doubl...If Woodley's relatively healthy he's double-digit sacks easily. I don't think he can replace Harrison's impact on games but he's been a very good player most of the time, if a little overrated ("dong" sacks inflating his rep some, disappearing against nobody tackles, etc.). He's got really good hands / nose for the ball as far as picking up fumbles, tipped ints, etc.<br /><br />His own position coach has expressed frustration about his conditioning twice in the last couple years (did it again, a little, in his presser after the draft this year), so it's not like people are just pulling that out of thin air.<br /><br />Yeah, if Curtis Brown turns out to be an NFL-caliber nickel back that would be a huge plus. Helps with depth after picking 30-something Ike "Cap Hit" Taylor over 20-something Keenan Lewis. :)Anonymous Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-4944936456387878232013-05-16T16:20:01.407-04:002013-05-16T16:20:01.407-04:00we could go back and forth for a while. some guys...we could go back and forth for a while. some guys clearly get hurt more than others, for whatever reason. hopefully, woodley comes back with a monster season and proves me wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-38756043766480933452013-05-16T12:00:00.010-04:002013-05-16T12:00:00.010-04:00You can blame injuries on anything:
Woodley - poor...You can blame injuries on anything:<br />Woodley - poor conditioning<br />Harrison - too old<br />Polamalu - Marinovich/style of play<br />Roethlisberger - poor Oline/style of play<br />Aaron Smith - too old<br />Taylor - freak accident<br /><br />Everyone gets hurt. Woodley has gotten hurt twice in what should be the prime of his career and he has a huge upperbody so people blame it on him being out of shape.<br /><br />And to Anonymous, Woodley started the 2011 season on fire. That was probably the best start of his career. It made me worry less about him starting slow. I don't think one padded practice and 30 minutes of a football game are getting him into shape any better than working out in Arizona.kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-76833428752614360262013-05-16T11:16:53.416-04:002013-05-16T11:16:53.416-04:00I always hear people mention how Woodley "Get...I always hear people mention how Woodley "Gets hot in the playoffs". Is he really getting hot, or did it just take him the better part of the season to play himself into shape?<br /><br />And it will be REALLY interesting to see how Woodley will do now that Harrison is not drawing all the double teams. Woodley looked pretty average to start the season when he was supposedly healthy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-84837792405275174932013-05-16T09:42:15.400-04:002013-05-16T09:42:15.400-04:00of course not, regarding the broken arm, but i ful...of course not, regarding the broken arm, but i fully expect he will have more hammy/ankle problems this year, as i stated in a previous comment.<br /><br />it's just my opinion, and as i said, we will find out this year. if he pulls up with a bad hammy again, then yes, i would consider that to be injury prone.<br /><br />also, i do think you can consider some guys to be more injury prone than others. especially when it may result from lack of conditioning/physical preparation. broken bones - no. muscle pulls/strains/tears - yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-90642105584941108252013-05-15T15:19:56.875-04:002013-05-15T15:19:56.875-04:00I meant every starter at some point during the sea...I meant every starter at some point during the season is playing through an injury that can limit their production. I'll skip the murderer's row of Steelers injuries last season.<br /><br />There is no such thing as "injury prone." There are guys who are injured and guys who aren't injured yet. If Woodley had a repeat of the same injury multiple times then you'd have a better argument. He pulled his hamstring and he strained his ankle. Those aren't the same injury and they do not suggest Woodley will get hurt again. If he misses time because someone lands on him and breaks his arm will you use that as evidence of your point?kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-50073418910434804712013-05-15T13:39:06.091-04:002013-05-15T13:39:06.091-04:00A hot streak in the playoffs doesn't do any go...A hot streak in the playoffs doesn't do any good if they don't make the playoffs. No third contract.Patrickhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douchenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-64429865360343599332013-05-15T12:49:13.282-04:002013-05-15T12:49:13.282-04:00also, i fully acknowledge guys play through in inj...also, i fully acknowledge guys play through in injuries in the nfl, and every other sport for that matter. but, i am referring to injuries that are substantial enough to limit their production.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-91025724696324316012013-05-15T12:47:54.290-04:002013-05-15T12:47:54.290-04:00like i said, the guy has become injury prone and h...like i said, the guy has become injury prone and has made him an incosistent player. thanks for proving my point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-23674313179980559642013-05-15T12:31:24.602-04:002013-05-15T12:31:24.602-04:00"as for starks, early in the season he was cl..."as for starks, early in the season he was clearly still recovering from his injury the previous season even though he played through it."<br /><br />So Mark, you don't think Woodley was playing through the ankle injury he suffered last year?<br /><br />He had a beastly training camp. Then he sprained his ankle badly and played through it.<br />There's nothing to suggest he'll suffer another ankle injury.<br />Woodley played in 47 of a possible 48 games in his first three years as a starter. Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-81824860339567251682013-05-15T12:19:18.794-04:002013-05-15T12:19:18.794-04:00If you can show me a starter on an NFL roster who ...If you can show me a starter on an NFL roster who isn't playing through an injury at some point during the season, I'll show you a lucky man. It's the nature of the game. If you don't get hurt it's because you're lucky, not because you're bigger, tougher, or train better. It's luck. Or circumstance if you prefer.<br /><br />Ike keeps himself in amazing shape - he got hurt. Hampton lets himself go - he got hurt. Look no further than last year's outside linebackers. Everyone knows the workout regimen that Harrison goes through, he's been hurt twice in two years. Everyone complains about Woodley's offseason shape, he's been hurt twice in two years.kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-79931027590104476562013-05-15T11:39:37.554-04:002013-05-15T11:39:37.554-04:00we'll just have to wait and see. i would bet ...we'll just have to wait and see. i would bet woodley misses 4 games this year due to injury or is significantly slowed down but tries to play through an injury. hammy or ankle with outside shot at calf/achilles.<br /><br />as for starks, early in the season he was clearly still recovering from his injury the previous season even though he played through it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-86292317913167605632013-05-15T10:48:14.952-04:002013-05-15T10:48:14.952-04:00All pass-rushers’ production is spotty. Rarely do...All pass-rushers’ production is spotty. Rarely do guys get one sack a game for 16 games. Usually they pile up a few in big games, get none, get a few more; it's a statistic of opportunity as much as execution.<br /><br />Woodley had an injury during arguably his best season in 2011. He had another injury last season. Those are the only significant injuries in his career. Max Starks got the "injury bug" and then played every snap last year. There are no assumptions with injuries that aren't wrong.kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-52168071338258582492013-05-15T09:51:39.388-04:002013-05-15T09:51:39.388-04:00dale,
i said, "inconsistent at this point in ...dale,<br />i said, "inconsistent at this point in his career", which is completely accurate. he has had trouble staying on the field, has shown a lack of conditioning (which we pointed out before anything was said from the locker room), and his production has been spotty. imo, when players start to become injury prone, they stay that way, and that is why i don't expect him to return to the consistent production you refer to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-56488563315680556802013-05-15T01:08:02.049-04:002013-05-15T01:08:02.049-04:00Reading the analysis from after the 2011 draft, it...Reading the analysis from after the 2011 draft, it seems that Curtis Brown was always slated to be more of a nickel corner than a starter. Cortez Allen, on the other hand, was seen as a higher potential player who could be a starter. So the real question is not if Curtis Brown is a bust because he is not the next Ike. He may have a very good career as the next William Gay/Deshea Townsend. I think we have higher expectations for Curtis Brown than Allen because of his higher draft position. But they are different types of corners. He might fit in nicely as a nickel corner and this doesn't make him a bust at all. After all he was drafted in the 3rd round not the first. If he could add interceptions, I say give him a hat on Sundays.<br /><br />Mrs. Isaac RedmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-31519563558095441702013-05-14T23:52:09.066-04:002013-05-14T23:52:09.066-04:00that wasn't me Dale.
someone being a smartass...that wasn't me Dale.<br /><br />someone being a smartassPatrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-81637843500951610462013-05-14T22:37:24.593-04:002013-05-14T22:37:24.593-04:00The bottom line is that Worilds isn't going to...The bottom line is that Worilds isn't going to be here after this season unless he is average or stinks in 2013.<br /><br />If he has a great season, he'll be cashing in like LewisDale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-2121064247339191692013-05-14T22:36:39.068-04:002013-05-14T22:36:39.068-04:00Got a couple of years to figure that out. If he bo...Got a couple of years to figure that out. If he bounces back healthy the next two seasons and has 25 to 30 sacks, it would be tough to let him walk.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-52772008792064249592013-05-14T20:56:25.705-04:002013-05-14T20:56:25.705-04:00I think the real question is whether Woodley will ...I think the real question is whether Woodley will receive a third contract from the Steelers. Hard to see that happening. <br />Patrickhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douchenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-65386555693515248812013-05-14T20:33:23.595-04:002013-05-14T20:33:23.595-04:00I might add that his hot streaks also seem to coin...I might add that his hot streaks also seem to coincide with the playoffs, which isn't a bad time to do it, either.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-2062607610529307432013-05-14T20:32:37.171-04:002013-05-14T20:32:37.171-04:00Inconsistent? How quickly we forget.
The man had 4...Inconsistent? How quickly we forget.<br />The man had 44 sacks in his first four seasons as a starter, including nine in 2011 when he only played 10 games.<br />Does he get them in streaks? Absolutely. But prior to his injury in 2011, he was carrying the defense almost by himself.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-52828308751323344752013-05-14T11:39:06.734-04:002013-05-14T11:39:06.734-04:00Woodley's an underperforming veteran?
The gu...Woodley's an underperforming veteran? <br /><br />The guy has one injury-plagued season and all of the sudden everybody forgets that he has 11 sacks in 8 career postseason games. On top of that, he's been an absolute terror for the top two AFC North rivals with 15.5 sacks in 19 games against Baltimore and Cincinnati.<br /><br />Before we all write Woodley off, I think Dale is spot on. There is really no reason to think he won't play well this season. The combination of Jones and Worilds should be enough to keep opposing pass protection honest. <br /><br />He's had a long offseason to get his body right, and he's still on the good side of 30.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16153045287325441832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-12775325035288678892013-05-14T11:01:16.610-04:002013-05-14T11:01:16.610-04:00My criticism of Woodley has been the slow starts b...My criticism of Woodley has been the slow starts but to expect him to be no better than Worilds or Jones is a bit much. When healthy, he's a Pro Bowl caliber player. In 2011 he even shut me up by coming into camp great and going on a tear through the first half of the season. Then he pulled his hammy. Then this past season he hurt his ankle. So, he's had one and a half down seasons out of six. I'd say Dale is right to expect him to play well. I guess we'll see.kylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-46357818758983858892013-05-14T09:32:00.870-04:002013-05-14T09:32:00.870-04:00agreed on woodley. they are committed to him now,...agreed on woodley. they are committed to him now, but he has certainly proven to be rather inconsistent at this point in his career. that could change of course, but i don't think it's likely.<br /><br />i am really looking forward to this o-line doing some damage next season. it's there time to shine and the team will need them to do well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-74267596426162088222013-05-14T08:58:52.412-04:002013-05-14T08:58:52.412-04:00There's no reason to believe that Woodley won&...There's no reason to believe that Woodley won't play well? You can't seriously believe that. <br /><br />The Steelers are committed to Woodley though. We shifted more cap debt into the future and guaranteed more of his money. I can't wait to see which promising young player we loose so we can keep an under performing veteran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com