tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post9025266355139331527..comments2024-01-01T18:41:14.457-05:00Comments on NFL from the sidelines: Game day threadMoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13612323587459830074noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-90619586220905538312010-11-02T12:54:19.771-04:002010-11-02T12:54:19.771-04:00You have to be very patient with that to make it w...You have to be very patient with that to make it work. This particular team has the players - Timmons and Polamalu - to make you pay on those short passes.<br />The bottom line, they gave up 20 points on the road at New Orleans to a very good passing offense in a game in which the Steelers turned the ball over three times - fumble, interception and downs.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-85684824845651201502010-11-01T15:17:46.185-04:002010-11-01T15:17:46.185-04:00Dale,
does it really matter if it's sideways o...Dale,<br />does it really matter if it's sideways or down the field? the saints used a short passing game to replace the run. playoff caliber teams will dink and dunk all day long to control the ball and move down the field. the notion of "they will make a mistake sooner or later" works fine when playing average or worse teams. but good teams really won't make that many mistakes.<br /><br />don't get me wrong, i think they have a very good defense, overall. but i also believe they need to be able to adapt when good teams dink and dunk down the field, and they haven't shown they can do that, yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-53639528021848943732010-11-01T14:25:04.639-04:002010-11-01T14:25:04.639-04:00Yes, Brees was 20 of 22 in the second half. But ab...Yes, Brees was 20 of 22 in the second half. But about five of those throws were down the field. Everything else was sideways.<br />They gave up one 50 yard completion on a blown coverage. So the other 19 completions went for 140 yards. That's 7.3 yards per completion. That's a whole lot of sideways passing.Dale Lolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089003781188560287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-51390517406120278222010-11-01T14:02:41.913-04:002010-11-01T14:02:41.913-04:00Even if the secondary played bad, they still held ...Even if the secondary played bad, they still held them to 13 deep into the 4th quarter. Imagine is our offense didn't struggle so much, and especially if heath didn't fumbleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-43869977650058940172010-11-01T13:56:11.321-04:002010-11-01T13:56:11.321-04:00Dale, has anyone asked LeBeau about the ridiculous...Dale, has anyone asked LeBeau about the ridiculously high completion percentages QBs have been having against the Steelers? Even given the facts that even bad QBs complete more than 50% these days and the Steelers haven't been giving up alot of total points, something is clearly wrong here -- and especially in the second halves of games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-24941014714034339132010-11-01T13:46:22.572-04:002010-11-01T13:46:22.572-04:00yes, you are right. i was speaking of the seconda...yes, you are right. i was speaking of the secondar as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-62138193978806182382010-11-01T13:43:50.304-04:002010-11-01T13:43:50.304-04:00Ike Taylor is very good at man-to-man coverage act...Ike Taylor is very good at man-to-man coverage actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-43628103710093760112010-11-01T13:42:28.224-04:002010-11-01T13:42:28.224-04:00you can say all the "ifs" you want, fact...you can say all the "ifs" you want, fact is the saints "did" dink and dunk down the field the whole second half and scored 17 points.<br /><br />the fact also remains the secondary is the weakest part of the defense. and they cannot, i repeat, cannot cover man-to-man. reference macfadden with his feet cemented to the turf on the out pattern for a TD.<br /><br />when a team is moving the ball at will, like the saints in the second half, you need to change it up. but they didn't. therefore, lebeau decided they didn't need to make a change or he decided the secondary was incapable of playing tighter coverage on short and intermediate routes but exposing themselves downfield. <br /><br />i guess that's a question to ask at the press conference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-42828894304728289872010-11-01T13:07:44.372-04:002010-11-01T13:07:44.372-04:00marc, LeBeau's defense has always been bend bu...marc, LeBeau's defense has always been bend but don't break. He doesn't believe a team can dink and dunk its way down the field without making a mistake. It doesn't make any difference who the DBs are.<br /><br />I can't say I paid much attention to the leading tacklers, but when a team decides its offense is going to be 90% pass, I'm not surprised a CB and nickle back are up there.<br /><br />Let's face it, if the offense scores on 1st and half a foot or converts one or both of the turnovers into points, we're not having this discussion.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-37044206724470209252010-11-01T12:17:33.886-04:002010-11-01T12:17:33.886-04:00favre was hit high at least twice in their game. ...favre was hit high at least twice in their game. once he was scrambling, threw the ball and got drilled. the second time they opened up his chin. Obviously, the QB was hit in the head, but no flag and probably no fine.<br /><br />you're right, goodell is a joke. they pick and choose who they want to punish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-11752410890853844382010-11-01T12:13:25.298-04:002010-11-01T12:13:25.298-04:00So will that NO DB who went helmet-to-helmet with ...So will that NO DB who went helmet-to-helmet with Ward get fined??? I guess not because Ward wasnt hurt, results oriented...Goodell is a joke<br /><br />That hit was more malicious than Harrison's or Dunta Robinson's, so he should be fined over 50k right<br /><br />Goodell is a p.o.s. and an idiotkeevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-54729490682615300572010-11-01T11:46:05.808-04:002010-11-01T11:46:05.808-04:00"
the saints showed what a team with 4 decent..."<br />the saints showed what a team with 4 decent receivers and a good TE can do to the steelers. dink and dunk, move the chains, and score."<br /><br />thats been the formula for forever. sad it hasnt changedPatrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-87136916325767370532010-11-01T11:33:15.680-04:002010-11-01T11:33:15.680-04:00i agree with you regarding the coaching decisions ...i agree with you regarding the coaching decisions and some mistakes putting pressure on the defense.<br /><br />i don't understand why any team would bother to run against the steelers. bring out 4 and 5 wide receiver sets and force the steelers to play the nickel all game long. the steelers cannot matchup if they have to put gay and macfadden on the field at the same time. neither is that good at coverage and having both on the field at the same time is a positive for the offense. <br /><br />did you notice they were 2nd and 3rd in tackles this last game? that's because they were picked on by the saints.<br /><br />like i said before, and it's just my opinion, but i believe lebeau recognizes our secondary is weak and plays the cover 2 to minimize the damage hoping the linebackers can make enough plays to get a stop.<br /><br />the saints showed what a team with 4 decent receivers and a good TE can do to the steelers. dink and dunk, move the chains, and score.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-3528434736993469572010-11-01T11:30:36.615-04:002010-11-01T11:30:36.615-04:00Yeah, ok, Kelly Holcomb and BA was Cleveland's...Yeah, ok, Kelly Holcomb and BA was Cleveland's OC.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-73953114700089217602010-11-01T11:20:47.779-04:002010-11-01T11:20:47.779-04:00NO didn't even bother to run. Every defense gi...NO didn't even bother to run. Every defense gives up something to defend something else. The Steelers' DBs play off and will give up the high percentage short stuff. So teams might be taking what the defense gives. Had there not been the two questionable coaching decisions at the end of the half and the 4th and 4, the defense gave up 2 TDs to an offensively talented team. And Ike got a pick and McFadden forced a fumble, neither of which the offense could convert into points.<br /><br />The stat that counts in the end is the number of points an offense scores against a defense and the Steeler defense is pretty good at keeping that number low.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-86789005145735361092010-11-01T10:22:22.682-04:002010-11-01T10:22:22.682-04:00"I'm no BA fan, but he's the same guy..."I'm no BA fan, but he's the same guy who made Kelly Soppach look like a HoF'er against the Steelers in that playoff game vs Clev."<br /><br />That wasnt Arians idiot. That was a horrible Steelers pass D that year. And you got the wrong QB marooonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-46669446859162632742010-11-01T10:15:10.329-04:002010-11-01T10:15:10.329-04:00adamg;
20/22 191yds 2 td for perfect 153 rating.
...adamg;<br /><br />20/22 191yds 2 td for perfect 153 rating.<br /><br />Brees stat line for the 2 half.<br /><br />Thats 90% completion, hardly a good job for the defense or the CB's.<br /><br />Realy good first half, patetic second half.<br /><br />Payton made the adjustments Dick, BA and Tomlin did not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-8827308529149627022010-11-01T10:13:54.275-04:002010-11-01T10:13:54.275-04:00the saints completed 20 of 22 in the second half. ...the saints completed 20 of 22 in the second half. i wouldn't say the steeler's DB's did a good job.<br /><br />for the season, the opponent's completion % against the steelers is 68%, which ranks 29th in the league.<br /><br />i think it is clear the steeler's defense makes every effort to take away the deep pass, but it leaves the short and intermediate routes open. imo, i think lebeau does that because he knows our DB's can't cover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-7119451360872974702010-11-01T10:02:29.880-04:002010-11-01T10:02:29.880-04:00Marc, imho you're being too harsh on the DBs. ...Marc, imho you're being too harsh on the DBs. Except for the blown coverage on Meacham, they did a good job sticking with NO's WRs.<br /><br />It's the NFL, even bad qbs are going to complete half their passes and good ones like Brees, more.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-89946601545507462032010-11-01T09:58:15.223-04:002010-11-01T09:58:15.223-04:00said the same thing about Reed's FG attempt. I...said the same thing about Reed's FG attempt. I almost would rather have seen a fake. Of course, a punt is the obvious choice, but thats just too logical.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-47286255004031953972010-11-01T09:57:17.198-04:002010-11-01T09:57:17.198-04:00I'm no BA fan, but he's the same guy who m...I'm no BA fan, but he's the same guy who made Kelly Soppach look like a HoF'er against the Steelers in that playoff game vs Clev. The play calling in the first 4 games was fine, even if conservative. Just maybe we need to start considering that BR is a great sandlot qb, but not so much when he's kept in the pocket and made to go through his reads.adamgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-64495503135663318012010-11-01T09:51:53.280-04:002010-11-01T09:51:53.280-04:00btw,
how do the refs call that holding on scott an...btw,<br />how do the refs call that holding on scott and not call it holding everytime an O-linemen does it to harrison when he rushes the QB?<br /><br />also, i told the guy next to me at the bar no way reed makes that kick and they should just punt the ball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-16872869631857602762010-11-01T09:48:45.423-04:002010-11-01T09:48:45.423-04:00patrick,
tomlin clearly deserves some blame for th...patrick,<br />tomlin clearly deserves some blame for the time management and the challenge calls. but i think you need to blame tomlin AND the coordinators for lack of adjustments.<br /><br />also, this team is talented, but the secondary is not. #43 is great, but will get burned from time to time because he guesses. taylor is a good CB, not great. Clark is an average FS. the remaining guys in the secondary are average on a good day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-49359625854382905252010-11-01T09:39:57.209-04:002010-11-01T09:39:57.209-04:00also did ANYONE think Reed was going to make a 51 ...also did ANYONE think Reed was going to make a 51 yard FG?Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15287012.post-70628430500890792542010-11-01T09:36:42.415-04:002010-11-01T09:36:42.415-04:00I'm tired of the BA bashing without giving Tom...I'm tired of the BA bashing without giving Tomlin some blame. <br /><br />How long does he need to ratify this before he gets some of it too?<br /><br />And after last night, it should be painfully obvious that Tomlin is horrible at in game management and decisions. There were also no adjustments at the half, while NO game out and had a completely different half passing the ball. <br /><br />I'm glad the Steelers are 5-2 but I'm sick of watching the same coaching mistakes over and over with the talent this team has.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725231979706488599noreply@blogger.com