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Monday, November 03, 2014

Post-Ravens thoughts part II

Remember that team that was left for dead a month ago in Cleveland?

It's now in control of its own destiny the rest of the way this season thanks to three impressive wins over AFC contenders.

Certainly, playing Houston, Indianapolis and Baltimore at home helped, but it seemed that each one of those wins was more impressive than the last.

The Steelers are a legitimate contender in the AFC because they finally figured out that to win, they just need to keep on scoring.

Welcome to today's NFL.

After becoming the first quarterback in NFL history to have two 500-yard games in his career, Ben Roethlisberger set another NFL record Sunday night by throwing six TD passes in back-to-back games.

That's the most in a two-game stretch in NFL history.

And it's what the Steelers will need to continue to do moving forward. Keep on scoring and let it all be sorted out at the end of the game.

@ Anybody else notice, by the way, that all six of Roethlisberger's touchdown passes came after Courtney Upshaw came at him with a shoulder to the chin in the second quarter?

Joe Flacco, on the other hand, immediately threw an interception after Steve McLendon was penalized for roughing the passer.

@ The defense has chipped in during this three-game stretch with seven turnovers.

With the offense as explosive as any in the NFL, that's all that's needed. It has been a winning formula over the past decade for teams such as New England, Green Bay and New Orleans.

The defense doesn't need to be great if it's taking the ball away from the other team.

@ All of that said, James Harrison is playing out of his mind right now.

He had another two sacks and hit Joe Flacco four other times in this one. And that was after being steamrolled in a dogpile that left him lying on the ground like Sargent Hulka in Stripes for several moments.

He finally picked himself up went off for a couple of plays and then continued his assault of Flacco.

Harrison said after the game, however, that he is not considering coming back next season. And he's not likely to change his mind about that.

@ While Roethlisberger, Tomlin and other keep trying to downplay Martavis Bryant's contributions, all the kid does is keep making plays.

I understand that the Steelers don't want Bryant to think that the NFL is easy. But boy, he sure is making it look easy at this point.

@ Having Antonio Brown working on the other side helps. Brown might be the most unstoppable force in the NFL right now.

While Roethlisberger deserves to be mentioned as an MVP candidate and likely will get some of that push after Sunday night's game, Brown deserves to be in the conversation as well.

He now has 71 receptions for 996 yards and eight touchdowns. That's a season's worth of production for most guys.

@ The best news for the Steelers in this game was that they did what they did with little to no production out of the run game. In fact, you could say they really started clicking once they abandoned their run game.

Part of that was due to game circumstance. The Steelers had terrible field position throughout the first quarter of this game.

But once they finally started just throwing the ball, they began moving it consistently.

@ To put what the Steelers did to the Ravens Sunday night into perspective, consider this: The Ravens entered the game having allowed just seven touchdown passes in their first eight games.

They exited with 13 now on the board.

@ Bryant matched an NFL and team record by scoring his fifth touchdown in his third NFL game.

That matched former Steelers tight end Eric Green (remember him?) for the most in three games to start an NFL career.

58 comments:

Easley said...

Add another chapter to The Legend of James Harrison. Who needs Chuck Norris stories? Amazing performance.

adamg said...

Thought the much maligned Steve McLendon had about his best game I've seen since he became a starter. He was a force inside as was Cam Heyward.

As much as anyone, imo, Kiesel and Harrison have done as much as anyone in helping get the Steelers back on track. You can't quantify the value their experience and leadership has brought to the defense.

Antwon Blake got away with a few shirt grabs, but he's almost always in position to make a play on the ball. But, really all the DBs played well, esp Will Allen stepping in when Troy went out.

Steelers ran well enough to keep Balt's defense at least somewhat honest.

BR and Haley looked pretty chummy on the sidelines late in the game, too.

Anonymous said...

Tomlin can only win with Noll's players on the sidelin .

Vin Diesal said...

What's wrong with Shamarko? Troy goes down and they put Allen in?

ibygeorge said...

I thought McLendon's QB slam was a game changer, much like Upshaws was in their previous meeting. Harrison's sack of Flacco shortly thereafter also helped keeping Flacco looking unsettled.
Kudos to the coaching, perhaps Haley should be the biggest receipt, to figuring out the strengths of this offense.

Anonymous said...

James Harrison is our big toe.

Is Shamarko still not quite healthy? Thought he was suppose to be next man up after Polamalu.

Anonymous said...

I think the coaches have given up on Shamarko. Not sure why. I can't think of a really bad game he every had.

marc said...

great 3 quarters of football to watch. once the steelers found their edge, Baltimore just couldn't keep up and showed us the punks that they are.

defensively - great energy, Harrison is a beast in this defense, d-line had good push most times, DB's were good enough (though I thought flacco missed throwing to some open guys). disappointed McCullers was inactive, the cam Thomas experiment should be terminated.

aside from garbage time, flacco was average at best and totally scared of getting hit. I also loved a couple of his "wing and a prayer hoping for a penalty or miracle catch" throws downfield. typical ravens.

offensively - I'm not sure what adjustments they made after the "3 sack debacle", but it worked. raven's defense was running around with it's head cutoff. AB is all world right now, wheaton is coming around, Bryant is a mismatch, as is bell against any LB'er. having blount to be the power back is a big plus as well.

kudos to the coaches. the offense is clicking and the defense is taking the ball away.

what's the difference between punching the guy in the chin or blatantly hitting him in the chin with your shoulder/helmet well after the QB throws the ball? Upshaw should have been ejected, imo, as well as suggs. blatant attempts to injure defenseless players is not football. I hate the rules about hitting WR'ers up high - it's part of their job to go over the middle and catch the ball and know their going to get blasted. but Upshaw and suggs weren't playing football on those plays.

nice write up dale. can you give us an idea of how many snaps tuitt got in the game? thanks.

adamg said...

At the post-game presser, Tomlin said Shamarko injured his hammy, but not the one the had kept him out.

What was Balt trying to accomplish at the end calling TO, then stopping the clock with a spike, then not even throwing into the endzone trying for an "insult" TD?

Agree that Upshaw should have been flagged for the helmet hit on BR. If that's Brady, Manning or Luck, it's called right away.

Suggs hit from behind on Blount was as cheap as it gets. He could have just as easily wrapped his arms around Blount so he couldn't go backwards. There was absolutely no need to hit Blount in the back of his knees, which then buckled from the push of the pile pushing against him. He could have gotten seriously hurt.

Dale Lolley said...

Shamarko had an injury to his other hamstring.

Greg W. said...

I think Dale nailed it in his comparison of Ben and Flacco's different responses to getting hit. Ben stayed focused, trusted his linemen, started to get the ball out more quickly, and just completely picked apart the Ravens' secondary. Flacco was clearly rattled and started making really bad decisions. The look on his face indicated he couldn't wait to get off the field. Brady and Manning are like that too when they get hit. The last two weeks are the recipe for a playoff run, and after last night, there is no doubt we've got the right ingredients!

Kudos to Haley and Munchak for making the adjustments to give Ben a cleaner pocket. Ben is going to make everyone forget about his sandlot style if he keeps doing what he's doing.

Colbert has taken a lot of heat, but he's looking pretty good right now, especially with the offense that he's put together. He sure knows how to pick those later round receivers. Here's hoping the Steelers can maintain the focus and intensity and stack some road wins!

Go Steelers!

Anonymous said...

Shamarko played most of the STs snaps. I thought he injured it on Jacoby Jones' KOR TD. Which was well after Will Allen replaced Troy.

Tuitt had 17 snaps, btw.

DD said...

These past 2 games have been the most fun I have had watching the Steelers in YEARS!! Harrison is defensive MVP. I honestly cannot believe how much of a difference he has made!! Ben is offensive MVP. Past 2 games stats are absurd. AB is the a close second and is the best WR in the NFL. Keep it rolling BnG!!!

Easley said...

It's definitely unfair and hopefully inaccurate to conclude anything about a guy eight games into his career, but I am really starting to worry that Shazier is going to be one of those guys who just can't stay on the field. Really, really hoping this is just an unlucky stretch.

Anonymous said...

adamg

"Suggs hit from behind on Blount was as cheap as it gets."

You mean the one where the whistle hadn't blown yet? And Blount was still moving the pile forward? And Suggs hit him in the side of the hip (instead of the knees) specifically so he wouldn't get "seriously hurt"... as the video clearly shows here in slow-mo:

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/11/terrell-suggs-spears-legarrette-blounts-legs-video/

Your comment is about as clueless as it gets - except for the other one's you've posted on here.

Oh ... and I'm a Steelers fan who posts here frequently. So don't even bother trying to save yourself by accusing me of liking the Ravens, supporting murderers, approving of thugs etc, etc, etc.

adamg said...

Yeah, you're a Steeler fan, but at least you and dopey Ron Cook agree.

The officials threw a flag meaning at least one of them who was watching the play unfold thought it was a 15 yd personal foul.

I watched the replay and it was clear Blount's knees buckled then the pile bent him over backward and fell on him. I was surprised he didn't come out of the hit with at least a sprained knee.

If Suggs really wanted to stop forward progress - from behind - all he had to do was wrap his arms around Blount's waist and wait for the whistle. It's not like Blount saw him coming.

Face it, it was a dirty play and could have resulted in a serious injury.

marc said...

it was clearly a dirty play, however you look at it. more importantly, suggs' peers also felt it was a dirty play.

what I felt was more telling though, was while his defense is getting picked apart, suggs is still running his mouth and jawing with the steeler's bench. maybe he should pay more attention to the game next time, his stat line of 3 tackles wasn't too impressive.

separately, blount ran hard and I hope the steelers give him some more touches. if, for no other reason, to keep from bell's "wheels falling off".

Anonymous said...

so what's with shamarko's hammies? We know he's not fat like Woodley, and we know he can flat out play when not injured, just like Woodley, so what's the deal

Anonymous said...

adamg ...

"I watched the replay and it was clear Blount's knees buckled then the pile bent him over backward and fell on him. I was surprised he didn't come out of the hit with at least a sprained knee."

Point 1: He didn't come out of it with a sprained knee.

Point 2: He wasn't hit "in the back of the knees". He was hit on the side of the hip as the video I posted (as well as others that can easily be found on-line) clearly shows.

Point 3: It's the way he fell backwards from the weight of the pile that makes it appear that he was hit in the back of the knees. Lying about where he was hit won't help your case here.

Point 4: His knee "buckled" because the pile collapsed - which it inherently would have to do for the pile to collapse on top of him. You know .... with him being a ball carrier and having to tackle him and all since the whistle hadn't blown?

Point 5: If Suggs wanted to hurt him he could have gone directly for his knee to collapse that pile.

Point 6: He didn't.

Point 7: Now let's say (for the sake of argument)that the opposite happened in this case - that Suggs had just piled on and Blount DID hurt his leg as a result. We both know that you and tons of others would still be screaming that "Suggs is a dirty player!!!" and that "Suggs hurt him intentionally!!!" since he was the last one to pile on to Blount and he hurt his leg.

Point 8: "All he had to do was wrap his arms around Blount's waist and wait for the whistle" except that this is tackle football. And if Blount gets fee and scores before the whistle then it's at least partly on Suggs for not making sure Blount (all 250 lbs of him) was tackled.

Point 9: Just admit it ... You (unlike me) hate the Ravens and you hate Suggs and THAT'S what you're filtering this particular play though to reach your emotional conclusion. You're dealing with could have happened and what didn't happen and I'm dealing with what DID happen.

kelly said...

Love the Stripes references... Hulka and the big toe. Well done.

adamg said...

Anon 12:38, if you have to go to that much trouble justifying a dirty hit, it was a dirty hit.

As far as "hate", it's a game. There are many far more important things in the world than football.

Anonymous said...

adamg ...

"if you have to go to that much trouble justifying a dirty hit, it was a dirty hit."

You have yet to justify it being a dirty hit to begin with. And until you do, it's remains as NOT a dirty hit.

But I like how you willfully and completely ignored each and every one of those points that exposed you because you couldn't refute them.

BRAVO!

See, what you call "justifying" I call shredding your allegation at least 8 different ways.

You're free to try again (and no doubt fail again) as you lie about where Blount was hit and speculate on all the things that could have happened but didn't ... based on a hit to the side of the leg, above the knees, before the whistle, as the 250lb Blount was pushing a pile of half the Ravens defense forward.

You might want to focus your anger toward the refs for not blowing the whistle sooner.

Now take a deep breath and repeat after me: "I don't hate the Ravens and I don't hate Suggs", "I don't hate the Ravens and I don't hate Suggs", "I don't hate the Ravens and I don't hate Suggs"....

Or just say "Serenity now!" if you're a Seinfeld fan.

slab said...

Regarding the hit- while random Anonymous poster claiming not to be a Ravens fan on a Steeler's blog certainly seems like a really good source..... (sarcasm). the officials, the entire Steeler team and my own eyes disagreed. I know whose opinion I value more.... If he doesn't get fined this week, feel free to chime in with an "I told you so". Otherwise, you're in the wrong forum....

slab said...

I think it's very likely Upshaw's hit was a direct result of someone on the Ravens sideline deciding that if they could just send a message to Ben-legal or not, his play would deteriorate. Obviously, it did not have the desired effect. When the Steeler's retaliated the next time Flacco had the ball, it clearly did have an effect.

Dale Lolley said...

The officials felt it was an unnecessary hit. And they had the vote that mattered.

Any time a player is stood up like that and obviously stopped, you can't - after standing up and watching it for several seconds - just run in and spear him, from any angle, let alone from behind when you're "trying to stop his forward motion." Which is what Suggs claimed. If anything, he could have driven Blount forward by hitting from behind.

It was a cheap shot. You will see later this week that the league agrees when Suggs is fined.

marc said...

by the way, Timmons is quietly the 5th leading tackler in the nfl right now. good for him.

Anonymous said...

Slab ...

There is no sarcasm whatsoever - I'm a Steelers fan. But you can and will think what you want - especially since you can't prove your allegation that I'm not, right? (still no sarcasm)

Oh ... and let me know if you want me to register. We'll see what difference that makes to your argument(s) then.

Anonymous said...

Dale ...

"Any time a player is stood up like that and obviously stopped, you can't - after standing up and watching it for several seconds - just run in and spear him"

The play was still live.

The angle he took was the angle from where he was positioned - behind the runner with the ball who wouldn't go down despite being piled on.

And it did stop his forward motion. Something that all the "piling on" didn't seem to stop until that point.

How he fell after the hit - to the hip - and the direction he fell was determined by a multitude of factors including physics.

I still say if Suggs really wanted to injure the guy, he had one hell of an opportunity to do it there.

But hey ... if those are the rules set by the league and that's what Suggs is fine based on, then fine.

What I have a problem with is people deciding it was "dirty" based on their dislike for the team in question, the player in question, a lie that he was hit in the "back of the knees", or because he (GASP!) collapsed to the ground - which is what's pretty much supposed to happen to a ball carrier absent a whistle stopping the play.

I'm sure Suggs has gotten away with not being fined for things he shouldn't have done in the past.

Call it karma.

marc said...

watch the video again, Blount's forward progress was not only stopped, he was being pushed back when suggs hit him. additionally, the pile collapsed because of suggs' hit. if you don't think it is dirty, so be it, many other people do, including other nfl players.

also, if a steelers player had done that I would have called it dirty then as well. just like when kemo came flying into a pile at the end of a play one time and head hunted someone from the other team. stuff like that at the end of a play is not football, it's simply malicious intent to injure.

LexingtonLegend said...

Blount was clearly stood up and being pushed backwards, not pushing the pile as you claim. Also just because he miraculously wasn't hurt doesn't mean he couldn't have been nor make it less dirty.

marc said...

out of curiosity I shot over to a ravens blog for their take. they are ripping suggs and harbaugh a new one. suggs for being classless and dirty and harbaugh for not taking him out of the game and/or laying into him. they are also taking Upshaw to town as well. go figure.

Anonymous said...

"Blount was clearly stood up and being pushed backwards, not pushing the pile as you claim. Additionally, the pile collapsed because of suggs' hit."

OK ... so Blount's forward momentum was stopped and he had just started to get pushed backwards right before Suggs hit him. Suggs started his momentum for the hit at about the same time the pile stopped moving forward (and I just looked at multiple GIFs of the play to make sure).

That doesn't make it a "dirty" hit.

Was Suggs supposed to suddenly stop his forward progress and alter the law of physics? On the supposedly "dirty" hits Harrison made I don't recall him being able to do that either.

Also, the pile pile "collapsing because of Suggs' hit"? Yes, that was the general idea since Blount wasn't going down before Suggs started in to make the hit in question. If the pile "collapsing because of a hit" makes it a dirty hit then the NFL should just put dresses on the players like Lambert said.

And being "stood up" means nothing as long as there's no whistle yet. Again, the whistle should have been blown to kill the play before Suggs had a chance to make the hit. Then this is a conversation that nobody, nowhere is having right now.

I don't think it was a dirty hit and don't think it was as blatant an attempt to injure Blount as you say. Maybe that's because I've seen worse up to and including Haynesworth stomping on a player, Burfict giving ankles some extra attention, and Turley trying to unscrew a guys head from his neck - admittedly in response to almost the same thing happening to his QB on the same play.

You can disagree all you want on this. But if players were fined and suspended based on how badly the hits "looked like", both Harrison and Ward would have been banned for life.

"I shot over to a ravens blog for their take." I'm not basing my opinion on either side's take. And I've been to other blogs where fans of neither team said they didn't think it was dirty. In fact, said one Steelers fan named Jesus Chirstani (over on http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/10298/nfl-has-little-choice-but-to-fine-terrell-suggs) "If Suggs would've hit Blount in the knees or lower leg area, I would call it a dirty hit but he didn't so it wasn't dirty to me. Was it, 'unnecessary?' YES! The refs, indeed, called it so on the field. Sobeit. As I said, this morning, The Steelers, now, have bigger fish to fry. MOVE ON! Go Steelers."

I'm not saying Suggs isn't a dirty PLAYER, I just personally wouldn't use that as an undisputed highlight to prove it.

kyle said...

Anonymous,

You mentioned that everyone would assume you aren't a Steelers fan then you went ahead and assumed that the only reason anyone has a problem with the hit is because they hate the Ravens. Your real assumptions are not any better than your hypothetical ones.

You also called adamg to task for being upset over "what could have happened" then claimed that if it was "really a dirty hit" Suggs could have done much worse. Pot,kettle, all that.

I don't know if Suggs was trying to injure Blount. I'm not a mind-reader. The hit was clearly unnecessary as the person you quoted said. Diving into a pile, even a moving one, will often draw a flag. I think the problem most fans have with that play was the calculation. Suggs wasn't in the open field and reacting. He saw the slow moving pile. Sized it up. Then he dove at Blount's legs/hip/lower body/whatever. I'm a fairly objective guy so I'm not willing to say Suggs' intent was to injure but I do believe he clearly demonstrated a reckless disregard.

In any case, why is this the point of contention you're choosing to start a flame war over on here? You're picking a fight after a big divisional win because a couple fans mentioned Suggs' hit was dirty? You don't have to answer that, of course, but it seems like an odd thing to get in a huff about to me.

Dale Lolley said...

He was being pushed backwards. Suggs made a conscious effort, after several seconds to not only hit him, but take a running dive at him. That's a penalty every time and a fine.

Cody Wallace was fined for the same thing last season.

It was a dirty play then. It's a dirty play now.


And after that beatdown, THIS is what we're having a discussion about?

Anonymous said...

I agree DL, after the Steelers get beat down, all the talk is of the "end of the world". They give a beat down, and most of the talk is about 1 particular play. There were dozens of other plays that actually decided the outcome of that game.

Anonymous said...

That was one hell of a game, I was nervous with Ben delivering the high balls early on. Something didn't seem right, maybe a few extra nerves to live up to last weeks game.. As soon as he got hit, I had a good feeling that things were about to come together...

This team is awesome to watch!! I can't wait for the next game and I can't find enough Steeler stuff to read about..

Now that they have a winning taste in their mouth I expect a lot from this team.. I think we go into our off week clean, come out and put up another "W" against the Saints. I think we might split with Cincy, Ben and Co win against Atl to get Ben wins against all 31 teams and we win out...

Now if all that comes true... only time will tell..

Zeke

Anonymous said...

Kyle ...

"You mentioned that everyone would assume you aren't a Steelers fan then you went ahead and assumed that the only reason anyone has a problem with the hit is because they hate the Ravens."

I stopped there.

Post back to me where I said what you just accused me of saying.

I'll wait ...

What I did is call the kind of BS that adamg tries to float in advance whenever he has an emotional response to something on here. Like when I, like many others on here, criticized Tomlin and Colbert for not doing a good job coaching or drafting (based on losses to supposedly inferior teams earlier this season and the last several seasons) and he said "Since you know so much why don't you get a job working in the NFL instead of anonymously trolling a website?"

I could tell what was coming from him.

And as for "starting a flame war"? It's called posting my opinion. And not one based on lies like "He hit Blount in the back of his knees".

If you that opinion? Fine.

If you DON'T like it and you're gonna stomp your feet and throw your sippy cup in front of everyone? Then that's even better!

Now be sure to post back to me where I said what you accused me of saying in the first part of your crybaby rant there.

Like I said ... I'll wait.

Anonymous said...

Correction of above ...

If you like that opinion? Fine.

If you DON'T like it and you're gonna stomp your feet and throw your sippy cup in front of everyone? Then that's even better!

Nick c said...

I watched the game in my local Steelers bar and was disappointed at the turn out. About 1/3 the number of usual (maybe the night slot had something to do with it) and then noticed the fans at Heinz seemed out of it by the time the fourth came around. When it was 7-0 most people I was watching it with were already willing to give up, a few actually left. It's disappointing that even when this team does something incredible it goes under-appreciated not only nationally but by the (spoiled?) fans as well. What Ben is doing right now is one of the most impressive things I've seen as a fan of this team. Brown is legitimately the biggest threat in the NFL right now. Yet we're arguing about the actions of a player not even on the team. Forget it, the penalty was called that's the end of it.

marc said...

Nick c,
I agree, forget it. But that gets tough at times when someone can't post their opinion without insulting others.

kyle said...

Here you go, champ,

"Point 9: Just admit it ... You (unlike me) hate the Ravens and you hate Suggs and THAT'S what you're filtering this particular play though to reach your emotional conclusion. You're dealing with could have happened and what didn't happen and I'm dealing with what DID happen."

You are suggesting that he only thinks the play was dirty because he hates the Ravens and Suggs. Seems pretty clear cut to me.

adamg said...

Dale, what do think about the theory that BR's excellent performances the past 2 games are related to going away from the no huddle? The theory goes that BR gas been able to concentrate on executing the play rather than also having to call the plays himself?

Easley said...

Who is this guy that has all the time to do a frame by frame analysis of the Suggs cheap shot like it's the Zapruder film? Move on.

Dale: When can we expect some definitive word on the injuries? I have a bad feeling about Troy.

Dale Lolley said...

Troy seemed to be OK last night. Was standing at his locker when I talked to him, which was I took as a good sign.

I ran the numbers tonight for my story in Tuesday's Observer-Reporter. They have run 15 no-huddle plays in the past three games.

They have slimmed things down for Bryant, given him a small package of plays. Part of the reason for the lack of no-huddle has been the score of the games.

But it's also because their offense has been effective without it.

Patrick said...

hey look a petty argument without Patrick involved.

However, i disagree with everything Kyle has said.

Anonymous said...

Dale, love the blog. great work. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I am shocked that Suggs has so much time on a Monday to troll the blog. Not shocked that he is too stupid to figure out how to register.

Anonymous said...

or not man enough to sign his name.

Anonymous said...

I’ve been busy with work and other projects, but when I saw the number of comments, I had to stop and read them. My thoughts were that the Nation was celebrating the Steelers biggest win of the season. Thoughts of James Harrison’s comeback, Ben’s record setting night, the young receivers, I was looking forward to reading the viewers comments.

I get here and Terrell Sucks logged on to defend himself, WTF? Who cares, it was a dirty play when I first saw it, still is. But a Steeler (?) fan logs on to defend him and not mention all the good things that occurred, WTF! I could understand if the Steelers lost and the comments were about firing Tomlin, Haley, trading Ben etc, but we won! BTW AdamG, agree with you and enjoy your commentary, ignore azzwipe.

That was a heavyweight fight and I enjoyed every minute of it. I hope that mo continues with the next two games as the Steelers have the tendency to play down to their opponents. Vick had no turnovers yesterday, Ryan used to be Baltimore’s D coordinator, so it’s probably a tougher game than what’s on paper, then we face Whiz, so no easy games, keep the pedal to the metal.

Bill in DC said...

Did anyone else catch Suggs singing renegade? I know he played it off like he was dismissing the song but it made me wonder if Suggs isn't jealous of the Steelers.

Anonymous said...

kyle ..

"You are suggesting that he only thinks the play was dirty because he hates the Ravens and Suggs. Seems pretty clear cut to me."

Right, I was suggesting that adamg (and only adamg) might be doing that because personal experience with him proves his responses are clearly based (in part) on emotional reactions. And that includes a possible dislike of Suggs and/or the Ravens.

But that's not what you accused me of saying. And that's not what you were supposed to prove in that retort, champ.

Way to swing and miss there, champ!

Let's see if capitalization clues you in.

Your allegation was: "You mentioned that everyone would assume you aren't a Steelers fan then you went ahead and assumed that the only reason ANYONE has a problem with the hit is because they hate the Ravens."

Get that word that I capitalized there, champ?

I never said, meant, or suggested that "anyone" (else on here) or everyone (else on here) would have a problem with the hit only if they disliked the Ravens.

Dale has a problem with the hit too and we already know he has much more valid reasons than that.

"Seems pretty clear cut to me."

And now you finish your rant off by admitting that I was only accusing adamg? And not "anyone" else on here?

Thanks for finally admitting that, champ.

Anonymous said...

Anon1126

"I am shocked that Suggs has so much time on a Monday to troll the blog. Not shocked that he is too stupid to figure out how to register."

I'm definitely NOT shocked that someone like you (who is "too stupid to know how to register") is also stupid enough to complain about someone else being "too stupid to know how to register".

adamg said...

"Easley said...

Who is this guy that has all the time to do a frame by frame analysis of the Suggs cheap shot like it's the Zapruder film? Move on."

Instant classic. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous137

"ignore azzwipe"

Really? You want to make this personal ... because you don't like an opinion of mine?

If you take a shot at me on here, I'm gonna go right at you for it!

And this "azzwipe" here flushes things smarter than you when he's done wiping.

Now you might want to keep your name-calling in check before I shred you to ribbons for it.

And I'm all for it if that's how you want this to go!

Anonymous said...

Anon1127

"or not man enough to sign his name."

Another one crying about me and trying to make this personal because he doesn't like my opinion about the hit?

No wonder you're not "man enough to sign your name".

marc said...

anon10:30,
it's not your opinion that I have a problem with. it's your attitude towards other posters that sucks. for example, in your first post directed at adamg:

"Your comment is about as clueless as it gets - except for the other one's you've posted on here."

you are making it personal all on your own before any provocation from anyone else. if you want anyone to consider your opinion and respect it, then you need to show that respect in return...except for Patrick.

that's it for this stupid thread. big game in the afc north this Thursday.

kyle said...

Wow. You seem to be disturbed. I'm with marc, abandoning thread.

DAG said...

If you guys don't stop bickering with each other, Dale's going to shut down his blog so he doesn;t have to read this nonsense